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Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 21:03 #1

Diego started messing about with some concept sketches for the UAMC's female contingent. This is VERY early rough draft work-in-progress type stuff and the a few things will change - but thought you guys would like to see.

Basically the female UAMC will have all the same kit as their male counterparts but with some tweaks to armor and equipment. Let us know what you think (granted it's just a sketch at this point!)


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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 21:17 #2

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I'd like to see rolled sleeves on the females also to keep them reasonably uniform. Otherwise she looks great.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 21:18 #3

dhauser wrote:
I'd like to see rolled sleeves on the females also to keep them reasonably uniform. Otherwise she looks great.

Funny - that was #1 on my list for him too along with a couple other tweaks.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 21:19 #4

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Will I be able to build that exact pose?
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 21:20 #5

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I want to see her in a big tin can, because I want hard suits next, not a set that will look exactly like the male marines and not give me anything else to flush out my force other than knowing they are females.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 21:20 #6

It may sound weird, but I really like the elbow pads. It's not a feminine piece of kit, or a sexy piece of kit, but an oddly appropriate addition for the females. I think there's a thin line between too flat a chest plate and too full a chest plate. Good luck walking that. Aside from all that, I have to ask the question, will the females be wearing a jacket with the sleeves rolled up, the undershirt or some sort of sleeveless getup like it looks like in the sketch? I know the jacket would be most accurate, but I'm not sure how distinct that would end up looking. And you know how I feel about the rule of cool.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 21:24 #7

Disregard the sleeve talk, although I still think an undershirt would give more distinction. Also, will the armor be more form fitting, like a traditional sci fi clam shell, or more bulky, like the current ceramic armors? A more form fitting armor would almost certainly be called for, but it may be at odds with the current Marines which have a little more bulk to them.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 21:24 #8

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It may sound weird, but I really like the elbow pads. It's not a feminine piece of kit, or a sexy piece of kit, but an oddly appropriate addition for the females. I think there's a thin line between too flat a chest plate and too full a chest plate. Good luck walking that. Aside from all that, I have to ask the question, will the females be wearing a jacket with the sleeves rolled up, the undershirt or some sort of sleeveless getup like it looks like in the sketch? I know the jacket would be most accurate, but I'm not sure how distinct that would end up looking. And you know how I feel about the rule of cool.

Rolled sleeves on these - the long sleeve accessory pack (for both males and females) will be coming later.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 21:26 #9

And, since I got locked out of editing again, what other changes did you call for? I mean, all things considered, it looks like exactly what a female version of the UAMC would look like.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 21:32 #10

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noneoftheabove0 wrote:
And, since I got locked out of editing again, what other changes did you call for? I mean, all things considered, it looks like exactly what a female version of the UAMC would look like.


Works for me!


I like her. She looks confidant and capable, which is exactly how a Marine should look!
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 21:33 #11

noneoftheabove0 wrote:
And, since I got locked out of editing again, what other changes did you call for? I mean, all things considered, it looks like exactly what a female version of the UAMC would look like.

I agree, it looks just like a UAMC marine, except as a woman. Unless there's certain pieces of kit he was wanting thrown in, or to slightly change the sculpt of the armor, I'm not really sure what else would need to be done.

If you released a kit that remained faithful to this kind of concept art, I think you guys would hit a good balance between having a kit that obviously has women, yet doesn't blatantly turn them into eye candy.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 22:09 #12

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I want to see her in a big tin can, because I want hard suits next, not a set that will look exactly like the male marines and not give me anything else to flush out my force other than knowing they are females.
Yep, but the poll says they'll get to those, too. No sense in whining about it.

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I'm actually looking forward to this set because I have a couple of nieces I'd like to introduce to the hobby, along side my nephews, and I'm thinking they might like to have some women figures on the table top. I don't have an interest other than that, and would prefer other things, but if this is going to be made, I'll buy it, and hopefully this will add to the likelihood that other things will be made as well.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 17 Apr 2012 23:03 #13

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That art looks good. Stick close to that and i will buy them up... On second thought, unless they were done over cheese, I would still probably buy them... Oh well, great start. BTW, i am really digging this customer driven approach.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 18 Apr 2012 01:40 #14

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If DG follows their plan of releasing what was it 3 or 4 sets a month then I have no problem with the females first although I would prefer sets to make game more flushed out. But if the release schedule is one set every other month then I'd rather have the females later rather than sooner.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 18 Apr 2012 08:04 #15

Kawmeen wrote:
If DG follows their plan of releasing what was it 3 or 4 sets a month then I have no problem with the females first although I would prefer sets to make game more flushed out. But if the release schedule is one set every other month then I'd rather have the females later rather than sooner.
Good to see you kind of trying to come around on this one. Its a struggle, but you can do it. And don't worry, we heard you the first time on your preference. ; )
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 18 Apr 2012 12:50 #16

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Tony @ Defiance Games wrote:
the long sleeve accessory pack (for both males and females) will be coming later.

That's when I'll cut the arms off of all of my figures except a couple and re-work them with the long sleeves. :sick:

Of course I suppose I could sculpt long sleeves. :unsure:

Nahhh not on the first few anyways. :lol:
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 19 Apr 2012 12:31 #17

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In an interesting very relevant article the USMC announces that female officers will be allowed to attend the Infantry Officers Course.

news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/19/report-wom...ry-school/?hpt=hp_t2
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 21 Apr 2012 16:02 #18

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I like the sketch and really am looking forward to seeing some female figures and so is my wife, Eileen. She's always complaining that manufacturers' portray females with tiny waists and big boobs. These will be great. All the best Geoff and Eileen.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 21 Apr 2012 22:54 #19

Okay - try this on...


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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 21 Apr 2012 23:23 #20

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Definitely digging the vibe we're getting here.

Any chance for a sidearm? I know that they're not the primary weapons, but a guy has needs y'know?
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 22 Apr 2012 00:42 #21

Looks really sharp. Glad the elbow pads made the cut.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 22 Apr 2012 03:48 #22

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Grrr, I just typed reply that failed to post... Hey ho! The short of it is I love the look of the concept sketches, however although I like the elbow pads, as they're not on the male marines I don't think they should be on the female mini's. At best it'd be like saying it is standard issue kit that only women are bright enough to actually use, at worst that it's extra kit issued to women to protect their delicate little elbows. Just my personal opinion of course!
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 22 Apr 2012 08:32 #23

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Keep the elbow pads and do extra arms for the guys in a later set with them too.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 22 Apr 2012 11:22 #24

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Looking good. I like the head band for the art, though i am not sure about for actual figs (maybe for Spec ops female Marines, but definitely not front line combat). However, that being said, maybe you should release the females before you release the command stuff/special Marines upgrades/blisters/sets/whatever, then you could have dedicated sets for men and women that can be bought together and apart. just a thought.
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Re: Girls with Guns! Female UAMC sketched out... 22 Apr 2012 11:41 #25

Uher II wrote:
Looking good. I like the head band for the art, though i am not sure about for actual figs (maybe for Spec ops female Marines, but definitely not front line combat). However, that being said, maybe you should release the females before you release the command stuff/special Marines upgrades/blisters/sets/whatever, then you could have dedicated sets for men and women that can be bought together and apart. just a thought.

The actual order will be: UAMC hardsuits, female Marines, and then the command/specialist sets. Jury is still out on whether or not the command/specialist sets will be split by sex or integrated.
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